Welcome to............ The Cita News! Now Playing at a Citadel Near you! Brought to you by Editor: Psychotic Killer The Letter C And by the number 9! Issue #12 Editor Executive in Chief Big Guy in Charge: Psychotic Killer! A.K.A. Mike Jones! To complain to the editor you can write him at MIKEJON@XMISSION.COM (internet) or if you want to run up his LD bill, you can contact him on citanet at sinkhole!fluffadel!psychotic killer sinkhole connects to c-86 test I think and a couple others Or if you don't connect to any of the systems listed just post to him in the CitaNews Room! The Cita News! Serving America's Citadels since 1987! Departments 1. What is Cita News? 2. Who is this Psychotic Killer guy? 3. We want Bill.K! 4. Editor's Column 5. Back issue list Section I Verse 5 Times 2 Lawsuit #42 Neener neener Or to be more precise Section I Back in the 80's there was a software made that was called citadel, I'm kind of hazy on who made the first citadel whether it was Hue Jr. or Orc or who. But I do know that in 1987 there was a kind soul who decided that boards running this type of software and it's variants needed a newsletter this man's name was Steve Yelvington. He wrote the first 7 issues of the citanews, it was continued for one issue by David Quick, Eric Griff, Dominic Duvall and Bill.K. But in April of 1993 Bill.K finished the last citanews and no one decided to carry on the tradition. So here I am I who knows little of cita-history carrying on the torch a Year and a half later. I've tried my very best to get articles that I believe you will enjoy. Because all citadellians deserve a citanews. Section II Who is this Psychotic Killer guy? He's the one who is composing this newsletter. Why? Because he likes citadels ok! But more importantly he wants to keep the citadel tradition alive. PK is better known as Mike Jones, he runs a Fortress-PC (Stadel-PC variant) in Salt Lake City Utah (the number is 1-801-278-0565). Ok time to stop referring to myself in the 3rd person. I'll tell you my cita-story. I first logged on to The Only BBS out in salt lake, it was a fnordadel and it was different than those WWIV's I tried, the first thing I did was complain about the lack of games which seemed to send the sysop off on a tirade against me. But that did not keep me from calling like it would others, in a while I grew to like the only bbs. Then I saw an ad on the only bbs for a new BBS called SDF-1, and that's where I fell in love with citadels a year later, I was running my own, and now I'm the writer of the Citanews, I FEEL SO RIGHTEOUS! Section III Where's Bill.K? He Died No He didn't? What's your point WHERE IS HE! He still runs the sinkhole but stopped writing citanews THANK YOU You're welcome Section IV The Editorial Spouting off for the month! I sure hope this newsletter doesn't reach the folks at Newsweek, they might hail it as bigger than the 2nd coming (just because it is is not the point) they seem to jump all over anything that has to do with the internet or Computer related these days. They just like to ignore that it's been there for 20 years, it's nothing special, all it is is a cheaper, faster way to talk to someone. Anyway, Just my quick 2 cents. Section V Back issues ---------------------=============================----------------------- Index to back issues and their authors : 1-7 by Steve Yelvington (George Jetson @ The Lake). 8 by David Quick (The Badger @ Pell). 9 by Eric A. Griff. 10 by Wally Hartshorn (Dominic Duvall @ The Quest) File name Month of Issue Size Author -------------------------------------------------------------------------- News8704.txt ... April 1987 ......... 10K Steve Yelvington News8705.txt ... May 1987 ........... 10K Steve Yelvington News8706.txt ... June 1987 .......... 19K Steve Yelvington News8707.txt ... July/August 1987 ... 27K Steve Yelvington News8709.txt ... September 1987 ..... 33K Steve Yelvington News8803.txt ... March 1988 ......... 28K Steve Yelvington News8804.txt ... April 1988 ......... 39K Steve Yelvington News8805.txt ... May 1988 ........... 6K David Quick News8809.txt ... September 1988 ..... 10K Eric A. Griff News9108.txt ... August 1991 42K Dominic Duvall News9304.txt ... April 1993 48K Bill Karpocowitz And now, The Columns! Editor's Note: Many of the columns in this months edition are by Freejack@fluffadel, he seems to be the only one who wanted to send me anything!! Index Column #1 Bad News for STKeep Fans Column #2 Cita History (sings national anthem) Column #3 Our Citadel Family Tree Column #4 Citadel+ Sounds nifty don't it? Column #5 A Short list of all cita variants Column #6 Freejack Makes a shameless plug for his new board All of the Above by Freejack And below by PK Featured Board: Fluffadel, PK's board, Hey! you can be featured when you send me an article Featured Software: Fortress, cause that's what it runs Column #1, STKeep, Uploaded by Freejack@Fluffadel "IS ST-KEEP NO MORE!?" Well that may indeed be the case. Andrew Studer has released his source code to ST-Keep as he can no longer support it's continued development. Hopefully some dedicated sysop with the programming ability may decide to try and continue where Andrew left off. This definitely would be a good thing as there are still a number of Atari users out there. Here is the "1README.NOW" file from the source code archive... ----- Subject: ST-Keep GFA Source Code From: Andrew Studer, Author/Designer I regret to inform you that I will no longer be supporting ST-Keep Bulletin Board System in ANY form. This includes updates for the future along with bug fixes. ST-Keep has been a part of my life for over 4 years, but my life has changed enough recently that I no longer have time to work on the code. Because of this, I have decided to release the source code so that others may find usefulness in it and possibly enhance the system. I am not responsible for anything related to ST-Keep, the source code, technical support, etc as of this release. If you modify the source code, I will not be able to help you support the product. If you call my BBS and leave me mail with specific questions that require short responses, I will do my best to answer them. I will not answer any questions that will require me to do any research on my old code which I can not readily obtain from memory. Good luck, thanks for the support and interest, so long... -Andy ST-Keep BBS 916-729-2968 ----- Best of luck to Andy with his future endeavours. And if anyone plans on taking on further development of ST-Keep, drop us a line! Column #2 Citadel History (also uploaded/written by Freejack@fluffadel) "WHY WOULD ANYBODY WASTE TIME PRESERVING THIS?" My first exposure to room-based systems came in 1987 when I received a copy of Stonehenge. I promptly setup a dual-floppy BBS on my brand new IBM compatible and had a blast being a sysop. That lasted for about a year before I brought down the system due to an overseas move. In late 1993 being a Maximus sysop in the Denver area was quite enjoyable also. Then I ran across a system running "Citadel" and I was immediately flooded with memories a few years past. Needless to say Maximus was quickly slain from my computer and a fresh installation of Gremlin's Citadel replaced it. One of the first things to catch my attention concerning the history of Citadel-based systems was a "family tree" posted on the network I participated in. Being a curious person by nature I started gathering copies of different Citadel releases along with any source code I could find. I quickly learned many things concerning the development of various Citadel "variants". I also learned that the tree was slightly inaccurate and missing some information altogether. So I began to tinker with it and try to add information that I thought my be interesting. This quickly became an exercise in futility as there was much more information than could be accomodated in a simple ASCII chart. So I began an alphabetic listing of the Citadels I knew of that listed the authors and platforms they ran on. Then I realized I wanted to be able to convey even more information that I possessed on some of the versions. Thus was born my little pet project, the "BrickCitHouse". That being the room name on my system of my Citadel historical archive. I began by keeping all of the various Citadels in my possession available for download in that room. This was followed by including the revised "family tree" and alpha listing. I will include the "verbose" listing soon as I am as about to close to completing it as possible. That file itself will be approximately 150k to 200k in size. My intention is to have a public repository of token copies of any room-based system as well as any information pertaining to them. At this time my system, "Digital Free America", is following me across the country. I'll have a permanent home for it in Feb95 at the latest. Until then I can be reached in the Citanews room and will soon, hopefully, gate a "bbs history" room from the network I participate in. Look for my requests for info or programs! Column #3 Citadel Family Tree (uploaded by Freejack@fluffadel) _________ (Cynbe ru Taren) | | Citadel 2.00 | Citadel | | | Family | (David Mitchell) | Tree | Citadel 2.?? |_________| | (Bruce King/T'an T'u) Citadel 2.10 _________________________/|\_____________________________ / / | \ \ | (Kerry Kyes) (Caren Park) (Maher Maso) (Andy Meyer) | Citadel 2.28 Citadel 2.25 Citadel 2.11 Citadel 2.16s | \______________ | _____________/ \________________ | \|/ \ | | (Bob Perigo) | | BabeCit | __________/ \_________________ | | / \ \ [6] (John Luce) (Hue Jr.) (David Bonn) (ProtoSoft, Inc.) (Many sites) *CopperCit *Citadel-86 StoneHenge Ideatree *New York/NJ | | *East coast | ____/ \_________________________________ | / \ \ \ | (Grey Mouser) (Scott S.) (Major Chaos) (Kalen Bonn) | Commons NeoLith IronHenge StoneHenge | \__________________________________________________ \ \ \ \ \ (Gary Meadows) (David Parsons) | (Stallion) |--(Robert Nelson) SacCit-80 STadel | (Tony Preston) | Citadel-86/TI : _________/| | *Citadel-68K | *Asgard-80 / | | | |--(Michele & Sifu) *Asgard-86 / (Ganelius) | (Timelord,) | Macadel /\ Inner Sanctum | (Cap'N Dave) | _______/ \ | AmiDel |--(Brent Barrett) / | \------(Elim,) | | Novucivitas (b0b) | (Mr. Neutron) | (farokh irani)--| | b0badel | *adel | *Citadel-86e | (Jeff Waltzer) | | | *Overcit |--(Eric A. Griff) (The Gremlin) | | STadel-Ami Citadel 1.xx \--(Vince Quaresima) | | *Citadel:K2NE (Christopher Camacho) |\__________________________ Fortress-PC ________/| \ | / | (Turtle!) (Draiden Bansted) | | M.O.D.E. Fortress-ST | | | (The Dragon) \__________________ (Mistress Mouse) DragCit \ Citadel II ___________________/ \________________________ \ / | \ \ \ (Ray) |---(Z'ton) (The Gremlin) \ \ *TurboCit | TwitCit DragCit 3.11 for MSC \ \ | | | \ | (Fred) |---(Maven) (Richard Goldfinder) \ | *FredCit | *MavenCit ACit \ | | |________________ \___________________ | | (Centauri) | \ \ \ | | CenCit | (Zen Master) (JJ) | | | | | *FrogCit *Co-OpCit (The Gremlin) (Dargos) |______________________ GremCit 3.20/xxx HoloCit | | \ | |---(Andy) | (Captain James T Kirk) | | Elegia | Captain's Citadel | | \ | (Angela Davis) (Dan Lieberman) (Anticlimactic Teleservices) Atlas NightCit *Citadel+ * == Active (still developed, updated or supported) ____________________________________________________________________ / Other Known Variants..... \ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Name , Platform , Lang , Author(s) | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| |*Acropolis , 80x86 (DOS), Pascal , Robert Bequette | | AT-Keep , Atari 800XL, BASICXE, Brent Barrett | | Babel , UNIX , C , T'an T'u |[5] | Citamad/Lumadel , Apple II , BASIC , Lum the Mad | | Citadel Plus , CP/M , C , Corvair |[3] |*Citadel/UX , UNIX , C , Art Cancro | | Citadel-64 , C-64 , BASIC , Vince Quaresima | | Citadel-128 , C-128 , BASIC , Vince Quaresima | | CitSim , WICAT , ?? , ?? |[1] | dars , Z80 (CP/M) , BASIC , err head | | Digital Dungeon , 8088 , C, Asm , Jerry Ash |[3] | D.T.J. BBS , C64 , ?? , ?? |[2] |*ElfBBS , 80x86 (DOS), Pascal , Dino Nardini | | FUBARC , ?? , ?? , ?? |[1] | MacCitadel , Macintosh , C ?? , Glen Heinz |[3] | MiniBin , TRS-80 , BASIC , Glenn Gorman | | NeoCitadel , 80x86 (DOS), Pascal , Hue, Sr. | |*NYTI , 80x86 (DOS), C , Ford II |[3] | Pseudodel , Apple II , BASIC , Shadow Warrior | | squiggle , 80x86 (DOS), Asm , Brent Bottles | |*ST-Keep , Atari ST , BASIC , Andrew Studer | | Titan , Atari 800 , BASICXE, The Dragon | | Titanic , Atari 800XL, BASICXE, Richard Goldfinder | | Unidel , UNIX , C , Ken MacLeod | \____________________________________________________________________/ Notes: 1. These are mentioned in Bill K.'s RSYS list but I've not seen any other information on them from any other sources. These may not have been. 2. I have this system but have been unable to unarchive it. I need an archiver known as LYNX for the C64. This may be Cit-64. 3. These may belong up on the tree. 5. What is with this name!? I take it Bruce King ran some citadels under UNIX and the system was called Babel at one time. I also take it BabeCit was once called Babel also? So should this be listed as Babel? or as a Citadel variant (under UNIX)? And it should probably be listed off of Cit 2.10, as I assume that is where is evolved from? 6. I assume this means continued development of Citadel itself out east? Well I can't find any! They were apparently some that lasted awhile reaching such 'versions' as 2.5x etc.... but any still up? Column #4 Citadel+ (uploaded/written by Freejack@fluffadel) "CITADEL+ OPENS TO RAVE REVIEWS!" What is Citadel+ anyway? Just another room-based system to come along as so many before? Not according to the authors of this feature laden version previously known as Gremlin's Citadel. Let's start with the opening paragraph from the introduction in the Citadel+ manual. "Citadel+ is the most configurable, most powerful, most supported, and all-around best variant of Citadel there is. If you have doubts about this, point us in the direction of a better Citadel and reasons why it is better; we will quickly incorporate any missing features into future versions of the software." Wow! How could anyone make such a claim!? Well the people behind Anticlimactic Teleservices have no fear in doing such and simply point to their product as proof. So first we'll take a look at their claim of being the most configurable Citadel. I'll start from the SysOp's point of view. Although you can setup a Citadel+ system with nothing but the executable and run a BBS with all it's defaults, one of the most enjoyable aspects of sysoping is creating a system that you desire. Well with Citadel+ you will definitely want the manual as there are over 200 keywords that can be used just in the main configuration file. In addition there are other configuration files in which you can create a system like no other. You can setup defaults for new users, which can definitely help with introducing the room-based concept to people who are may be used to other linear BBS software popular in your specific region. One can custom tailor Citadel+'s response to codes returned from the modem, which makes receiving FAXs a breeze. You can even setup mailing lists that support automatic subscription. There are internal protocols that can be used but of course support for powerful external ones is extensive. Doors can be configured in a number of ways. One can setup external editors or utilize various message "filters" if they wish to. And applictions can be tied in almost anywhere, automatically or user triggered. There is even a customization kit to allow the changing of just about every string sent out by the system. Citadel+ supports a variety of networking "protocols". Of course all the DragCit types are available but Net6_9 being, by far, the most robust is widely used. It's use of bi-directional transfers cuts the costs of networking significantly. Also with this release there is support for networking with Citadel-86 style systems that utilize the MSGADD and MSGOUT utilities. In fact the author of this article plans on being the first stable Citadel+ on that network, if he isn't already. And there is much much more that I really don't have the time to go on about. Now as far as the user's ability to configure their own usage of the system. The user's configuration screen is truely amazing. User's can setup an amzing amount of items to their own desires. Everything from screen attributes to automatic text replacement can be accomplished. This version introduces a feature where users may "finger" anyone on the network. There are really too many features to try and touch on and doing so is beyond the scope of this article. We now arrive at the "most powerful" claim. This is a subjective statement but nonetheless if the above doesn't offer credence the following may. Citadel+ contains a robust script language. There is also the ability to run scripts just about anywhere at anytime. Anything from automated message postings to custom designed displays can be accomplished from the more than 500 keywords/functions available. I think one could see where this feature alone can backup the claim of being the most powerful Citadel ever. The "most supported"? This statement is truely subjective yet whole-heartedly backed by the sysops and users of the software. The Anticlimactic Teleservices is the moniker the developers choose to use as the "author" of Citadel+. This team consists of five very talented programmers, and they are: Brent Bottles, Richard Finegold, Matthew Pfleger, Elisabeth Perrin and Don Kimberlin. This crew goes beyond what is normally expected in "product support". Yet, as the Citadels before it, Citadel+ is true freeware. It can be used in personal or commercial environments. Well now, isn't that a glowing review? I must admit to being a little biased as I myself run a Citadel+ system. But I choose to for the very reason a few people dislike it, the overwhelming amount of features available to both the user and sysop. This does of course require some resource to accomplish but the "regular" version can be run on an XT type system with 512k of RAM. While that version is limited to approximately 32k of messages but the "auxmem" version, that utilizes memory above 640k, has no practical limit. To try and touch on all the available features is honestly much beyond the scope of this article. To drive that point home the manual itself, which is not yet complete, is over 700k of text! So, be the features "useless and twitty" or definitely "citadelian" is somewhat irrelevant as the sysop can tailor the system to a level not available with other software. To see Citadel+ in action call the support board, The Anticlimactic Teleservice at (206) 562-9792. Any questions will be promptly answered and, most likely by Brent Bottles or Richard Finegold. The latest release is available there for download at 9600b or for 14.4kb speed call The Raft at (206) 861-9936. Column #5 a list of all cita-variants (uploaded by Freejack@fluffadel) ACit Richard Goldfinder MSDOS C *Acropolis Robert Boquette MSDOS Pascal AmiDel Timelord, Cap'N Dave Amiga C *Asgard-80 Gary Meadows CP/M C *Asgard-86 Gary Meadows MSDOS C AT-Keep Brent Barrett Atari 800XL BASIC Atlas Angela Davis MSDOS C b0badel b0b MSDOS C BabeCit Bob Perigo CP/M C Babel T'an T'u UNIX C Captain's Citadel Capt James T Kirk MSDOS C CenCit Centauri MSDOS C Citadel Cynbe ru Taren CP/M C Citadel 2.16s Andy Meyer CP/M (SONY) C Citadel II Mistress Mouse MSDOS C *Citadel+ Anticlimatic Teleservices Ltd MSDOS C++ Citadel Plus Corvair CP/M C *Citadel/UX Art Cancro UNIX C Citadel-128 Vince Quaresima Commodore 128 BASIC Citadel-64 Vince Quaresima Commodore 64 BASIC *Citadel-68K Tony Preston Amiga C *Citadel-86 Hue Jr. MSDOS C Citadel-86/TI Robert Nelson TI C *Citadel-86e Farokh Irani MSDOS C *Citadel:K2NE Vince Quaresima MSDOS C Citamad/Lumadel Lum the Mad Apple II BASIC CitSim ?? WICAT ?? *Co-op Citadel JJ MSDOS C Commons Grey Mouser MSDOS C *CopperCit John Luce MSDOS C dars err head CP/M BASIC Digital Dungeon Jerry Ash MSDOS C DragCit The Dragon MSDOS C Elegia Andrew Quinn MSDOS C *ElfBBS Dino Nardini MSDOS Pascal Fortress-PC Chris Camacho MSDOS C Fortress-ST Draiden Bansted Atari ST C *adel Arthur Dent Atari ST C *FredCit Fred McClain MSDOS C *FrogCit Zen Master MSDOS C FUBARC ?? ?? ?? *GremCit The Gremlin MSDOS C HoloCit Dargos MSDOS C Idea Tree ProtoSoft Inc. MSDOS C Inner Sanctum Ganelius Atari ST C Ironhenge Major Chaos MSDOS C M.O.D.E. Turtle! MSDOS C Macadel Michelle/Sifu Macintosh C MacCitadel Glen Heinz Macintosh C *MavenCit The Maven MSDOS C MiniBin Glenn Gorman TRS-80 BASIC NeoCitadel Hue Sr. MSDOS Pascal NeoLith Scott S. MSDOS C NightCit Dan Leiberman MSDOS C *NYTI Ford II MSDOS C Novucivitas Brent Barrett Atari ST C Pseudodel Shadow Warrior Apple II BASIC *Overcit Jeff Waltzer MSDOS C SacCit-80 Gary Meadows CP/M C squiggle Brent Bottles MSDOS ASM *ST-Keep Andrew Studer Atari ST C STadel David Parsons Atari ST C STadel-Ami Eric Griff Amiga C STadel-PC David Parsons MSDOS C Stonehenge David Bonn MSDOS C Titan The Dragon Atari 800 BASIC Titanic Richard Goldfinder Atari 800XL BASIC *TurboCit Ray Johnson MSDOS C TwitCit Z'ton MSDOS C Unidel Ken Macleod UNIX C Column #6 A Short list of all Files on Freejacks New Board (written by Freejack@fluffadel) This is the file listing from the "BrickCitHouse" room on Digital Free America. The board is not available to the public at this time. (I'm moving!) If you would like to obtain any of these please try to contact Freejack on just about any of the citadel networks. Filename Size Comments a86-149.zip 1,214,881 Asgard-86 v1.49q Release Package (4/94) acit688.zip 272,624 ACit v3.11.00a/688 Source Code (7/92) atlas200.zip 255,944 Atlas v2.00.05a Source Code (5/92) b0b119s.zip 213,515 b0badel v1.19 Source Code (5/92) babe9209.zip 163,840 BabeCit v9-92 Source Code & Release Package (9/92) c68k342.lha 977,770 Citadel-68K v3.42.P15 Release Package (8/94) c86-346.zip 972,588 Citadel-86 v3.46 Release Package (7/94) c86e-218.zip 472,543 Citadel-86e v2.18 Release Package (12/94) c_ux32.zip 202,727 Citadel/UX v3.2 Source Code (7/94) capt100a.zip 241,195 Captain's Citadel v1.00a Source Code (6/92) cencit-s.zip 252,899 Centauri's Citadel v1.34 Source Code (9/92) cencit.zip 393,284 Centauri's Citadel v1.12 Release Package (7/91) cit86s.zip 399,773 Citadel-86 v3.45 Source Code (1/94) ctdl210.zip 124,270 Citadel v2.10 Source Code (circa 1984 by CrT) dc31102d.zip 192,445 Dragon's Citadel v3.11.02 Release Package (10/90) dcs31102.zip 180,084 Dragon's Citadel v3.11.02 Source Code (10/90) dtjbbs.zip 140,740 D.T.J. BBS v??? Release Package (10/91) fc41src.zip 275,411 FredCit v41 Source Code (11/91) fcit41.zip 650,238 FredCit v41 Release Package (11/91 fnd132s.lzh 520,448 adel v1.32 Source Code (1/91) fortress.zip 400,739 Fortress-PC v0.1a Release Package (4/90) gcit127.zip 111,556 Gremlin's Citadel v1.27 Release Package (5/87) gcit59s.zip 279,780 Gremlin's Citadel v/59 Source Code (7/92) gcit642.zip 1,130,613 Gremlin's Citadel v/64.2 Release Package (7/93) henge121.zip 138,207 Stonehenge v1.21 Release Package (9/85) k2ne608.zip 878,454 Citadel:K2NE v6.08 Release Package (7/93) k2ne608s.zip 309,265 Citadel:K2NE v6.08 Source Code (7/93) maccit13.sit 170,112 MacCitadel v1.3b Release Package (5/90) mcit314.zip 1,281,166 Maven's Citadel v3.14.00m/022 Release Package (7/93) nc050190.zip 462,630 Novucivitas v050190 Release Package (5/90) neo300s.zip 274,748 NeoCit v3.00 Source Code (7/90) nightcit.zip 212,208 NightCit v2.0 Release Package (12/91) oc-k12.zip 340,245 Overcit vK.12 Release Package (10/94) plus65t.zip 1,336,982 Citadel+ v/065.156 Public Test Release (12/94) s342i23.lha 335,569 Citadel-68k v3.42.i23 Source Code (5/93) src119j1.zip 198,656 CopperCit v1.19J1 Source Code (8/94) stk572.zip 652,085 ST-Keep v5.72 Release Package (11/94) stk5src.zip 117,709 ST-Keep v5.7 Source Code (7/94) unidel-s.zip 112,657 Unidel v1.0 Source Code (5/92) Column #7: Featured Board for the Month, The Fluffadel BBS Written by Psychotic Killer@Fluffadel Hello all, it's your friendly editor again, The Fluffadel BBS has been online 24 hours a day since October 11, 1992 (minus a few days between hacks), at 801-278-0565, It wasn't always the Fluffadel. When I started the fluffadel up I was running on an 8088 (yeah so?) with a 1200 baud modem (ick), with a 21 meg hard drive (icky) and I was running WWIV (HOW DID YOU SURVIVE!?!?). We were up for a month and a half on that setup, until we got hacked, let me tell you, if you've ever run a WWIV you'll be very paranoid. So we started back up on PcBoard (yuck) which I blew some more money on, I didn't like it so I switched back to WWIV, and I got hacked again! Well, that's when a new citadel was born! I got the software from Sub-Odeon(fluffadel!sdf-2!sub-odeon) who has now moved to Washington State and got some help from Crazy Fox, and the fluffadel came into town. Anyway, now we're up 24 hours a day on a 14.4 modem and a monster 486, it has it's problems but at least it hasn't been hacked for a year and a half! What can you find on the fluffadel? Loads of net rooms? Naaah, we do carry Citanews though, which is our only net room. Loads of doors? naah, we have a few, Intelligent conversation? naah, The Fluffadel is as the name states, Pure fluff, 100% fluff, give us a call, and maybe even upload an article into the citanews room (hint hint) Column #8: Featured Software: Fortress-PC Written by Psychotic Killer@fluffadel Perhaps I'm not the best source to write an article on fortress, but as far as I know The Fluffadel is the biggest Fortress in the country now that undermind died (that's not saying much, fortress-pc is a dying breed too). Fortress is more advanced than some of the other citadels, I have yet to find another citadel that supports Ansi. Unfortunately it seems Fortress is being Discontinued by CMC, I keep trying to get the source code from him but I think my e-mail messages keep getting lost between here and his internet host, so if any of you are able to talk to CMC let me know. But anyway, Fortress is actually a continuation of STadel-PC under a different name, it was ported to ST by Draiden Bansted (who now runs Fortress-PC, so much for support eh?) Fortress-PC (I don't know about ST) of course has all the regular features of Citadel (you know, Twit finger, citanetting), it has a screwed up formatter though, but a couple fluffadel users (maalox moment@ fluffadel, king midas@fluffadel) are in the process of writing some new citadel variants, I'm not sure about Midas's but I know Maalox's will fix the formatter, more on his software in future issues :) Fortress can be downloaded from the BBS softwares room on the Fluffadel at 801-278-0565 Note about Citanews: Citanews can be downloaded from the Citanews room on the Fluffadel BBS at 801-278-0565 or you can subscribe to it at Mikejon@xmission.com, just say (uh huh huh, I wanna, heh heh, subscribe to the..citanews.. whoa, blackouts rule!) To contribute upload your columns to the citanews room on the fluffadel or send them to Mikejon@xmission.com