Citadel+ - Revision history

JesseLWR: /* Jesse's notes */

2026-03-15T18:41:41Z

Jesse's notes

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	If starting from fresh, you'll run into some fun issues:		If starting from fresh, you'll run into some fun issues:
	- The dialog to fill in missing config parameters or create directories doesn't work. It accepts none inputs. You'll have to kill -9 ctdl and make these dirs and add these config.cit items.
	- Any .CIT config files not created that Citadel will normally create for you still get created in all uppercase.		* The dialog to fill in missing config parameters or create directories doesn't work. It accepts none inputs. You'll have to kill -9 ctdl and make these dirs and add these config.cit items.
	- F6 on the console to enter the sysop menu doesn't work. So you can't make anybody a sysop, which somewhat limits what you can do.		* Any .CIT config files not created that Citadel will normally create for you still get created in all uppercase.
	- You will find that the default telnet port of 23 doesn't work, because of how modern Linux is with non-root users trying to use ports below 1024. Use ~~_setcap_~~ to grant the ctdl binary powers or put telnet on an alternate port and use an iptables rule to forward port 23 to it. The second option probably presents less risk in the event ctdl gets convinced to do something naughty somehow.		* F6 on the console to enter the sysop menu doesn't work. So you can't make anybody a sysop, which somewhat limits what you can do.
	- Things will get weird on the console if you run it in screen, at least once Jesse got a segfault after reattaching and interacting with the console, and it was full of garbage when this happened. This also hasn't reproduced.		* You will find that the default telnet port of 23 doesn't work, because of how modern Linux is with non-root users trying to use ports below 1024. Use ''setcap'' to grant the ctdl binary powers or put telnet on an alternate port and use an iptables rule to forward port 23 to it. The second option probably presents less risk in the event ctdl gets convinced to do something naughty somehow.
			* Things will get weird on the console if you run it in screen, at least once Jesse got a segfault after reattaching and interacting with the console, and it was full of garbage when this happened. This also hasn't reproduced.

	== Cit+ Files ==		== Cit+ Files ==

JesseLWR at 18:40, 15 March 2026

2026-03-15T18:40:05Z

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	BBS Data files from /Win32 are theoretically compatible.		BBS Data files from /Win32 are theoretically compatible.

			If starting from fresh, you'll run into some fun issues:
			- The dialog to fill in missing config parameters or create directories doesn't work. It accepts none inputs. You'll have to kill -9 ctdl and make these dirs and add these config.cit items.
			- Any .CIT config files not created that Citadel will normally create for you still get created in all uppercase.
			- F6 on the console to enter the sysop menu doesn't work. So you can't make anybody a sysop, which somewhat limits what you can do.
			- You will find that the default telnet port of 23 doesn't work, because of how modern Linux is with non-root users trying to use ports below 1024. Use _setcap_ to grant the ctdl binary powers or put telnet on an alternate port and use an iptables rule to forward port 23 to it. The second option probably presents less risk in the event ctdl gets convinced to do something naughty somehow.
			- Things will get weird on the console if you run it in screen, at least once Jesse got a segfault after reattaching and interacting with the console, and it was full of garbage when this happened. This also hasn't reproduced.

	== Cit+ Files ==		== Cit+ Files ==

JesseLWR at 17:21, 15 March 2026

2026-03-15T17:21:57Z

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	Per Jason, some use of AI was involved in this port "mostly Claude Opus 4.6 through Google's Antigravity."		Per Jason, some use of AI was involved in this port "mostly Claude Opus 4.6 through Google's Antigravity."

			Serial support and Windows GUI elements have been stubbed out along with several other features. Losing serial support is probably the only one that hurts, if you're a modem enthusiast.

			BBS Data files from /Win32 are theoretically compatible.

	== Cit+ Files ==		== Cit+ Files ==

JesseLWR at 17:11, 15 March 2026

2026-03-15T17:11:10Z

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	However, as of 2024 sometime, Jason has gotten it running again, and usually remembers to check on it now and then to make sure it's still up! telnet://bbs.slumberland.org		However, as of 2024 sometime, Jason has gotten it running again, and usually remembers to check on it now and then to make sure it's still up! telnet://bbs.slumberland.org

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			The most recent version is now available below, /066pα73. The copies of 72 and 73 here were built by jesse. The 72 build does not include the patches which were released after the 72 source was, but before the revision was bumped to 73. The 72 source below, however, does. If Jesse wasn't bored he'd compile a new 72 build from it, but since 73 exists he likely won't bother. The 73 source was obtained from Jason's SVN, but required the moving of one #include in comp.cpp to compile properly. 73 is also packaged with a copy of the /065 manual and the various bits and docs that have been released with earlier /066 alpha releases.

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	In March 2026, Jason started tinkering again, and has ported the code to build in modern Linux. Wow.		In March 2026, Jason started tinkering again, and has ported the code to build in modern Linux. Wow.
	This is now known as Citadel+/~~067pa0~~, and jason provided us a nice tarball of the code to play with.		This is now known as version /067pα0 (Citadel+/Linux/067pα0), and jason provided us a nice tarball of the code to play with.

	~~----~~		More info in the INSTALL.txt and LINUX.txt on differences from /Win32/066. Many things are untested, but it 'works with Slumberlands CONFIG.CIT'.
	~~The most recent version is now available below, /066pα73~~. ~~The copies of 72~~ and ~~73 here were built by jesse~~. ~~The 72 build does not include the patches which were released after the 72 source was~~, but ~~before the revision was bumped to 73. The 72 source below, however, does~~. ~~If Jesse wasn't bored he'd compile a new 72 build from it, but since 73 exists he likely won~~'~~t bother~~. ~~The 73 source was obtained from~~ Jason~~'s SVN~~, ~~but required the moving~~ of ~~one #include~~ in ~~comp~~.~~cpp to compile properly. 73 is also packaged with a copy of the /065 manual and the various bits and docs that have been released with earlier /066 alpha releases~~.
			Per Jason, some use of AI was involved in this port "mostly Claude Opus 4.6 through Google's Antigravity."

	== Cit+ Files ==		== Cit+ Files ==

JesseLWR at 17:06, 15 March 2026

2026-03-15T17:06:02Z

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	However, as of 2024 sometime, Jason has gotten it running again, and usually remembers to check on it now and then to make sure it's still up! telnet://bbs.slumberland.org		However, as of 2024 sometime, Jason has gotten it running again, and usually remembers to check on it now and then to make sure it's still up! telnet://bbs.slumberland.org

			In March 2026, Jason started tinkering again, and has ported the code to build in modern Linux. Wow.
			This is now known as Citadel+/067pa0, and jason provided us a nice tarball of the code to play with.

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	The most recent version is now available below, /066pα73. The copies of 72 and 73 here were built by jesse. The 72 build does not include the patches which were released after the 72 source was, but before the revision was bumped to 73. The 72 source below, however, does. If Jesse wasn't bored he'd compile a new 72 build from it, but since 73 exists he likely won't bother. The 73 source was obtained from Jason's SVN, but required the moving of one #include in comp.cpp to compile properly. 73 is also packaged with a copy of the /065 manual and the various bits and docs that have been released with earlier /066 alpha releases.		The most recent version is now available below, /066pα73. The copies of 72 and 73 here were built by jesse. The 72 build does not include the patches which were released after the 72 source was, but before the revision was bumped to 73. The 72 source below, however, does. If Jesse wasn't bored he'd compile a new 72 build from it, but since 73 exists he likely won't bother. The 73 source was obtained from Jason's SVN, but required the moving of one #include in comp.cpp to compile properly. 73 is also packaged with a copy of the /065 manual and the various bits and docs that have been released with earlier /066 alpha releases.
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	\|colspan="3"\|[http://lwr.wtf/citadel/CitadelPlus/unsorted/ big pile of things I haven't sorted yet]		\|colspan="3"\|[http://lwr.wtf/citadel/CitadelPlus/unsorted/ big pile of things I haven't sorted yet]
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			\|colspan="2"\|[https://lwr.wtf/citadel/CitadelPlus/citplus_067pa0.tar.gz Version /067pα0 source]
			\|align="right"\|March 14th, 2026
	\|}		\|}

JesseLWR at 06:12, 17 November 2025

2025-11-17T06:12:45Z

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	As of 2018, Slumberland's Cit+ pooped out and doesn't want to run after prodding. So the BBS is basically dead. The webchat is still present and functional for existing users, as webchat reads from the user DB file directly to authenticate. But no new users can sign up unless Citadel+ itself can be fixed.		As of 2018, Slumberland's Cit+ pooped out and doesn't want to run after prodding. So the BBS is basically dead. The webchat is still present and functional for existing users, as webchat reads from the user DB file directly to authenticate. But no new users can sign up unless Citadel+ itself can be fixed.

			However, as of 2024 sometime, Jason has gotten it running again, and usually remembers to check on it now and then to make sure it's still up! telnet://bbs.slumberland.org
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	The most recent version is now available below, /066pα73. The copies of 72 and 73 here were built by jesse. The 72 build does not include the patches which were released after the 72 source was, but before the revision was bumped to 73. The 72 source below, however, does. If Jesse wasn't bored he'd compile a new 72 build from it, but since 73 exists he likely won't bother. The 73 source was obtained from Jason's SVN, but required the moving of one #include in comp.cpp to compile properly. 73 is also packaged with a copy of the /065 manual and the various bits and docs that have been released with earlier /066 alpha releases.		The most recent version is now available below, /066pα73. The copies of 72 and 73 here were built by jesse. The 72 build does not include the patches which were released after the 72 source was, but before the revision was bumped to 73. The 72 source below, however, does. If Jesse wasn't bored he'd compile a new 72 build from it, but since 73 exists he likely won't bother. The 73 source was obtained from Jason's SVN, but required the moving of one #include in comp.cpp to compile properly. 73 is also packaged with a copy of the /065 manual and the various bits and docs that have been released with earlier /066 alpha releases.

JesseLWR: /* Cit+ Files */

2024-11-05T15:12:53Z

Cit+ Files

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	\|align="right"\|August 29, 2010		\|align="right"\|August 29, 2010
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	\|colspan="2"\|[http://~~lowerground~~.~~net~~/citadel/CitadelPlus/zombiechow_svn/ My occasionally updated copy of Jason's svn of current Cit+ code (/066pα73)]		\|colspan="2"\|[http://lwr.wtf/citadel/CitadelPlus/zombiechow_svn/ My occasionally updated copy of Jason's svn of current Cit+ code (/066pα73)]
	\|align="right"\|May 27, 2009		\|align="right"\|May 27, 2009
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JesseLWR: /* Gremlin's Citadel */

2024-06-29T12:31:48Z

Gremlin's Citadel

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	\|platform = [[wikipedia:IBM PC\|IBM PC]]		\|platform = [[wikipedia:IBM PC\|IBM PC]]
	\|ancestors = [[Dragon's Citadel]]		\|ancestors = [[Dragon's Citadel]]
	\|descendants = [[CitadelPlus]]		\|descendants = [[CitadelPlus\|Citadel+]]
	\|related = [[ACit]], [[Citadel (by Gremlin)]], [[dars]], [[Squiggle]], [[Titanic]]		\|related = [[ACit]], [[Citadel (by Gremlin)]], [[dars]], [[Squiggle]], [[Titanic]]
	\|website =		\|website =

JesseLWR: /* Gremlin's Citadel */

2024-06-29T12:31:01Z

Gremlin's Citadel

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	\|platform = [[wikipedia:IBM PC\|IBM PC]]		\|platform = [[wikipedia:IBM PC\|IBM PC]]
	\|ancestors = [[Dragon's Citadel]]		\|ancestors = [[Dragon's Citadel]]
	\|descendants = [[~~Citadel%2B\|Citadel+~~]]		\|descendants = [[CitadelPlus]]
	\|related = [[ACit]], [[Citadel (by Gremlin)]], [[dars]], [[Squiggle]], [[Titanic]]		\|related = [[ACit]], [[Citadel (by Gremlin)]], [[dars]], [[Squiggle]], [[Titanic]]
	\|website =		\|website =

JesseLWR: /* Gremlin's Citadel */

2024-06-29T12:28:32Z

Gremlin's Citadel

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	\|platform = [[wikipedia:IBM PC\|IBM PC]]		\|platform = [[wikipedia:IBM PC\|IBM PC]]
	\|ancestors = [[Dragon's Citadel]]		\|ancestors = [[Dragon's Citadel]]
	\|descendants = [[Citadel+]]		\|descendants = [[Citadel%2B\|Citadel+]]
	\|related = [[ACit]], [[Citadel (by Gremlin)]], [[dars]], [[Squiggle]], [[Titanic]]		\|related = [[ACit]], [[Citadel (by Gremlin)]], [[dars]], [[Squiggle]], [[Titanic]]
	\|website =		\|website =